David: Gail Thackeray is awesome! That's my shorter version of Nate's statement.

Nate: And then we have the Civil Libertarians [hate that phrase]; the folks at the EFF and their ilk who just "get it." They aren't out to trade free love or throw people in prison. They just want everyone to have their own "node," and publish, and share ideas.

David: Yeah I think the smartest part of the fourth section when Sterling talks about how what Mitch Kapour wants is to make the world safe for future Mitch Kapours.

Nate: Exactly.

David: It's egalitarian in a certain sense but it isn't the hippie anarchy of hacker manifestos that the EFF often gets accused of.