InfoWorld: Where BEA headed? Obviously, SOA is the big push for you.

Levy: SOA is a huge push for us, as well as completely we agree with the statements made by Shaygan [Kheradpir, CIO of Verizon] this morning. I think what we're going to see Web 2.0 fully in the enterprise and SOA pushing out into the consumer. And when that happens it's going to be just like in the beginning age of the Internet, when in order to make Internet successful, you really needed the technology and the infrastructure for this new world of sort of consumer-based development. You're going to need an infrastructure that will allow you to push out the execution or the composition of the applications into this peer-to-peer world. And that's where we're going.

InfoWorld: Why do see SOA in the consumer world?

Levy: You look at SOA-based applications, they're about composition. People are looking to be able to compose the application at runtime, not at design time. So what did [Kheradpir] call it? At the speed of need... That would require a new type of infrastructure.