Levy: Simplicity of installations, simplicity of administration, and of course, it allows us to spend less time trying to create a [big] environment and be more agile in our response to the marketplace. So it's good for us and it's good for our customers.

InfoWorld: BEA's still about US$1 billion in revenue a year, correct?

Levy: $1.2 billion.

InfoWorld: It doesn't seem like BEA's been able to grow that in the past couple years. What is it going to do to finally get off the mark there at $1 billion, or maybe it has gone up a little bit?

Levy: We grow both organically and through expansion. If you look at what we've done in the last year and a half, we've expanded the reach of Java to areas where traditionally before we were not. One area, in addition to the RFID field, [is] to the communication field, so people that are developing either RFID applications or communication applications to serve in VOIP, are now developing under the same Java container that we supported before. We created WebLogic Real Time, which [extended the] standard Java reach into places where Java didn't exist before, so where traditionally people used C/C++ for real-time applications, now they can use Java. So that's another growth factor. And obviously, the whole AquaLogic product line, and the now SOA 360. We believe that SOA is going to create a large wave that obviously allows significant growth.