Buiocchi: I wouldn't put our director technology as second to anyone's today. In looking at the road map for the two companies for the next-generation director, it was remarkably similar. They obviously know where we have some advantages, and we know where they have some advantages. The converged platform will embody the best of both company's technologies while maintaining backward compatibility with the i10K, the 6140 and the 48000.

So you're converging the three directors?

Buiocchi: We believe we can build a next-generation platform that embodies the best features of all of these while maintaining interoperability backward with all three of them. We're not settling. We're going to build the best director in the world.

Klayko: Rip and replace is a bad strategy in the director space.

Buiocchi: And just to be clear, we're talking about the 8Gbit/sec. time frame -- 2008 -- for that converged platform.