David: See, I think he likes those; or maybe we should just stop attributing motive.

Alex: I found it fascinating to consider how difficult it is for the American justice system to crack down on information thieves.

We have all these Constitutional principles of free speech, free assembly etc. That are constantly at odds with our concerns about state subversion and rebellion being fomented by internal agents There are some strong parallels to contemporary concerns about national security

David: Yeah but I think the real fascinating thing that they keep bumping up against is that they just have no conception of what the hell is going on; like, they want the Legion of Doom to be structured like a drug cartel.

Alex: Yeah, totally; If Sterling is to be believed, the authorities very much envisioned a legion of black-clad hackers seated around a shadowy table.