InfoWorld: Is SpikeSource profitable at this point?

Polese: Well, we don't yet discuss [that] and we probably won't until we become a public company, should that event occur. We don't reveal information about our financials at this point.

InfoWorld: There's been talk in the last couple of years about whether commercial software would go away. Do you think there will always be a place for commercial software? You're not going to have a world where all software is free? You don't see that happening, do you?

Polese: Well, just to sort of drill down on that word a little bit, there's commercial and there's proprietary, and there's open and there's closed, and there's different combinations of all four of those.

InfoWorld: I'm talking about where you pay for the licensing in software.