David: Well there is the part where he literally tells young kids to be computer cops and not hackers because it's closer to the lionized image of what cool hackers look like in the media; you're actually the underdog, you actually get all the coolest tech news and go into all the craziest systems. Best of all, the cops never bust down your door and take all your stuff.

Alex: True.

Nate: Meh. I for one still find myself rooting for the "bad guys." At the very least, the "good" bad guys. The bored teens trading phone codes to join an elite club of high tech ne'er-do-wells.

Alex: Am I the only one who's awfully inspired to start frequenting shady boards and playing around with phones?

Nate: Uh, I think you're about 15 years too late.