We need much more alignment. You know we're never going to take away the initiatives of the state or federal governments, but we need much more alignment and there needs to be much more collaboration. While Ian's comments are correct in that state to federal collaboration is improving, it's improving because the federal government has said around healthcare we have to do it this way, so then everyone has to re-align themselves. I think there needs to be a lot more of that because if we wait for everyone to understand it needs to be that way because we need to achieve the strategic position of Australia, it'll take too long. I think there does need to be some force applied to that process, but that's a really critical thing, to break down the bottle-necks that occur and the distractions that occur between the state governments and federal government.

Well it's largely about trade isn't it? I think that's one very obvious level. It's a global world, a global industry, and these days pretty much anybody who sets up an IT business is not looking at that in the context of just the local environment. They're looking at it potentially as a global community business, that's kind of now the way you run your business these days. So we've got to make sure we give those companies the support they need and we've got to look for every opportunity to provide good trade between those countries. That's partly what the dialogue here has been about, but it's also what we focus on with Austrade and others in terms of trying to make sure that ICT is recognised as a major contributor to exports.

To facilitate a lot of trade for example, to facilitate trade, to facilitate growth, there's gotta be work done on standardisation on various things and harmonisation on legislation. For example: a) across state boundaries of Australia, and b) across national boundaries. So things like data security, privacy, when in fact a lot of what you might be viewing, and might be putting in data will be outside your own border. There's a whole bunch of almost global stuff that has to be done to harmonise that and harmonise the rules and regulations around that. There should be a huge imperative around it, but that's a long job, but that's the sort of thing that also needs to be done, to make it able to happen.